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		<title>Comment on Choice Titles by Jim K.</title>
		<link>http://pagehalffull.com/pesbo/2010/08/26/choice-titles/comment-page-1/#comment-3121</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bickerings, silent treatments..same all over.
Ah, well. So much for my magical thinking.
If you nudge a locust 3 dozen times by the 
rear elbows, a gene switches and you have
a new creature.  The effect of crowding.
And we are steeped in the same media, basically.
Through the same telescopes.

The restlessness and drive seem epic, though.
I guess that&#039;s all over.  Something&#039;s going on,
I&#039;m just not sure what it is.  Is all the consumption
of info without production causing suffocation?
Perhaps poetry on output booms because you
need to breath out to complete thought.
Language as moving organ. 
Something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bickerings, silent treatments..same all over.<br />
Ah, well. So much for my magical thinking.<br />
If you nudge a locust 3 dozen times by the<br />
rear elbows, a gene switches and you have<br />
a new creature.  The effect of crowding.<br />
And we are steeped in the same media, basically.<br />
Through the same telescopes.</p>
<p>The restlessness and drive seem epic, though.<br />
I guess that&#8217;s all over.  Something&#8217;s going on,<br />
I&#8217;m just not sure what it is.  Is all the consumption<br />
of info without production causing suffocation?<br />
Perhaps poetry on output booms because you<br />
need to breath out to complete thought.<br />
Language as moving organ.<br />
Something like that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Comments versus Conversation, Written vs. Spoken by Gillian Wallace</title>
		<link>http://pagehalffull.com/pesbo/2010/09/02/comments-versus-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-3074</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillian Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much of value here to reflect on, Pearl. It dovetails with my own recent thoughts but carries into much deeper water. There has to be room in the world for all the types of discourse you&#039;ve identified or else we&#039;re all impoverished.

I love your languange: &#039;closes out voices not wearing proper debate attire, or having a spot of mispunctuation on its shirtfront&#039;. As someone who makes a living copyediting, this is an important reminder for me to not do this. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much of value here to reflect on, Pearl. It dovetails with my own recent thoughts but carries into much deeper water. There has to be room in the world for all the types of discourse you&#8217;ve identified or else we&#8217;re all impoverished.</p>
<p>I love your languange: &#8216;closes out voices not wearing proper debate attire, or having a spot of mispunctuation on its shirtfront&#8217;. As someone who makes a living copyediting, this is an important reminder for me to not do this. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Choice Titles by Pearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, diversity of taste helps a magazine. I should dip back to Boxcar.

Arc seems to have taken a turn for the diverse lately with editors of complementary or conflicting tastes. 

yes, yelling in the cave gives everyone headaches, even the shadows&#039; heads throb.

&gt;are there 100,000 private
jokes out there? 
wonder. more. must be. 

the next world, hatching in Canada. that&#039;s a neat idea. but there&#039;s a huge amount of bickerings and silent treatments. wherever you go with people, there are people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, diversity of taste helps a magazine. I should dip back to Boxcar.</p>
<p>Arc seems to have taken a turn for the diverse lately with editors of complementary or conflicting tastes. </p>
<p>yes, yelling in the cave gives everyone headaches, even the shadows&#8217; heads throb.</p>
<p>>are there 100,000 private<br />
jokes out there?<br />
wonder. more. must be. </p>
<p>the next world, hatching in Canada. that&#8217;s a neat idea. but there&#8217;s a huge amount of bickerings and silent treatments. wherever you go with people, there are people.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Style/Voice by Pearl</title>
		<link>http://pagehalffull.com/pesbo/2010/08/30/on-stylevoice/comment-page-1/#comment-3013</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that limestone sketcher sounds like a fascinating person to know. 

&gt;Millions of years leave marks,
limbs, trees.
love that remark. :)

prolific is nothing more than a habit of priorities isn&#039;t it? put in the time and the brain switches to generative gears, push it and it goes faster.

this tethering together of Identity and what one writes seems very north american culture somehow. one can write anything. 

poetry, like everything, else is acting and pitching sales of ideas and performance. 

my concern with house style for a person is what list of things one is closing self off to, can&#039;t think or produce or feel such and such because the ideology of expression has suchandsuch constraints. how do the other aspects get out? or is there diversity and creativity within the small boundaries? but at what point is one rehashing and trying to brainwash oneself, obsessing rather than moving on and outwards?

conversely, if one relentlessly switches up styles one may be adaptable and trying to apprentice, or avoiding something? what is one afraid of when one doesn&#039;t repeat some small thing to nth degree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that limestone sketcher sounds like a fascinating person to know. </p>
<p>>Millions of years leave marks,<br />
limbs, trees.<br />
love that remark. <img src='http://pagehalffull.com/pesbo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>prolific is nothing more than a habit of priorities isn&#8217;t it? put in the time and the brain switches to generative gears, push it and it goes faster.</p>
<p>this tethering together of Identity and what one writes seems very north american culture somehow. one can write anything. </p>
<p>poetry, like everything, else is acting and pitching sales of ideas and performance. </p>
<p>my concern with house style for a person is what list of things one is closing self off to, can&#8217;t think or produce or feel such and such because the ideology of expression has suchandsuch constraints. how do the other aspects get out? or is there diversity and creativity within the small boundaries? but at what point is one rehashing and trying to brainwash oneself, obsessing rather than moving on and outwards?</p>
<p>conversely, if one relentlessly switches up styles one may be adaptable and trying to apprentice, or avoiding something? what is one afraid of when one doesn&#8217;t repeat some small thing to nth degree?</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Style/Voice by Jim K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 03:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You always open so many cans...
At least this post is finite enough to attempt..heh.

Musicians are an interesting analog.  Some do the
same thing over and over, others have variety.
Some are successful only with this, and curse the
public because the public won&#039;t let them do that.

Persona helps, especially in poetry. Muses, too.
To get yourself entrained, as another person, or to
perform for another person.  Some distrust that.
They say poetry lies.  But to ring true you have to
at least be complete.  Mythology isn&#039;t factual, but
it&#039;s true to self-consistent personalities...

People has different tolerances for what&#039;s
&#039;recognizable&#039;.  If you have a huge capacity to
shift you might find it hard to settle in.  But
how to be entrained without holding still for
a moment?  I posed one way per line once.
14 times.  I don&#039;t think anyone knew.  I think they
stitched their own stories.  It did very well.
I was shocked.  There are things going on we
don&#039;t know about.  We can at least explore 
and fiddle,  If you&#039;re internally prolific, you have
that luxury.  Not everyone does.  

I wish there were actually cognitive research into
poetry, oddly enough.  The people types, the limits
and schemes.   Millions of years leave marks,
limbs, trees.

The open mic is neat sometimes....the reactions,
the feel of the group, the differences.

When I was with artists, some were stuck, others
moved.  One made 120 sketches of limestone caves
the never looked the same way twice....static 
subject, moving views.  I went to the caves....
..nothing.  Hers were all alive in her mind by then.
A morphing artist feel...almost infinite, for a moment.

Art is a great way to unhinge the poetic mind,
I guess.  But so many parallels too..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You always open so many cans&#8230;<br />
At least this post is finite enough to attempt..heh.</p>
<p>Musicians are an interesting analog.  Some do the<br />
same thing over and over, others have variety.<br />
Some are successful only with this, and curse the<br />
public because the public won&#8217;t let them do that.</p>
<p>Persona helps, especially in poetry. Muses, too.<br />
To get yourself entrained, as another person, or to<br />
perform for another person.  Some distrust that.<br />
They say poetry lies.  But to ring true you have to<br />
at least be complete.  Mythology isn&#8217;t factual, but<br />
it&#8217;s true to self-consistent personalities&#8230;</p>
<p>People has different tolerances for what&#8217;s<br />
&#8216;recognizable&#8217;.  If you have a huge capacity to<br />
shift you might find it hard to settle in.  But<br />
how to be entrained without holding still for<br />
a moment?  I posed one way per line once.<br />
14 times.  I don&#8217;t think anyone knew.  I think they<br />
stitched their own stories.  It did very well.<br />
I was shocked.  There are things going on we<br />
don&#8217;t know about.  We can at least explore<br />
and fiddle,  If you&#8217;re internally prolific, you have<br />
that luxury.  Not everyone does.  </p>
<p>I wish there were actually cognitive research into<br />
poetry, oddly enough.  The people types, the limits<br />
and schemes.   Millions of years leave marks,<br />
limbs, trees.</p>
<p>The open mic is neat sometimes&#8230;.the reactions,<br />
the feel of the group, the differences.</p>
<p>When I was with artists, some were stuck, others<br />
moved.  One made 120 sketches of limestone caves<br />
the never looked the same way twice&#8230;.static<br />
subject, moving views.  I went to the caves&#8230;.<br />
..nothing.  Hers were all alive in her mind by then.<br />
A morphing artist feel&#8230;almost infinite, for a moment.</p>
<p>Art is a great way to unhinge the poetic mind,<br />
I guess.  But so many parallels too..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Choice Titles by Jim K.</title>
		<link>http://pagehalffull.com/pesbo/2010/08/26/choice-titles/comment-page-1/#comment-2941</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 03:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A path with heart, as Casteneda would say.

Underneath it all, it&#039;s art. Poets fought for that freedom.  And none of its &#039;schools&#039; should
extinguish any other....like in art. 
 There are a lot of paths
to the one goal:  &quot;did you possess me with 
your vision?&quot;  I expect a museum to have 
modern, ancient, post-modern, and foreign
pieces.   I wish poetry collections did the same kind of thing.  I think the curatorship of 
&quot;Boxcar&quot; came the closest that I know of.  

The pleasure of the art in my fantasy world 
would have a handful of very different editors,
all vying to hook the public on visions.
(shock-horror: the public?)
I think curators with some respect for the
public but a desire to wow the public 
might pick poems from all quarters and 
present them to say &quot;see what I mean..?&quot;

Anyone saying &quot;open&quot; seems to mention
only their flavors.  Entrainment must come
with the word somehow.

We&#039;ve been pasting art next to poetry
like wrapping the dog&#039;s pills in bacon.
 Poetry itself is art.  Maybe some kickass
oration would help.  Or..performance art is
more tied to the word.  Drama, rhetoric,
puzzlement and mind-games sold as
just what it is.  Are there 100,000 private
jokes out there?  Thinking about 
entraining (puzzling, enthralling) the public.

All this yelling in a tightly packed
cave is pointless.  Everybody is oppressed.
The oppressed are intolerant. The cycle
spins.

It&#039;s a bit more open and esoteric in
Canada.  Maybe the next world can
hatch there.


Less bickering, more inspiring?
Dunno.  Nowhere to go but up.
like museums are stocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A path with heart, as Casteneda would say.</p>
<p>Underneath it all, it&#8217;s art. Poets fought for that freedom.  And none of its &#8216;schools&#8217; should<br />
extinguish any other&#8230;.like in art.<br />
 There are a lot of paths<br />
to the one goal:  &#8220;did you possess me with<br />
your vision?&#8221;  I expect a museum to have<br />
modern, ancient, post-modern, and foreign<br />
pieces.   I wish poetry collections did the same kind of thing.  I think the curatorship of<br />
&#8220;Boxcar&#8221; came the closest that I know of.  </p>
<p>The pleasure of the art in my fantasy world<br />
would have a handful of very different editors,<br />
all vying to hook the public on visions.<br />
(shock-horror: the public?)<br />
I think curators with some respect for the<br />
public but a desire to wow the public<br />
might pick poems from all quarters and<br />
present them to say &#8220;see what I mean..?&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone saying &#8220;open&#8221; seems to mention<br />
only their flavors.  Entrainment must come<br />
with the word somehow.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been pasting art next to poetry<br />
like wrapping the dog&#8217;s pills in bacon.<br />
 Poetry itself is art.  Maybe some kickass<br />
oration would help.  Or..performance art is<br />
more tied to the word.  Drama, rhetoric,<br />
puzzlement and mind-games sold as<br />
just what it is.  Are there 100,000 private<br />
jokes out there?  Thinking about<br />
entraining (puzzling, enthralling) the public.</p>
<p>All this yelling in a tightly packed<br />
cave is pointless.  Everybody is oppressed.<br />
The oppressed are intolerant. The cycle<br />
spins.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit more open and esoteric in<br />
Canada.  Maybe the next world can<br />
hatch there.</p>
<p>Less bickering, more inspiring?<br />
Dunno.  Nowhere to go but up.<br />
like museums are stocked.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Relative by Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 05:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What ingredient do you need for transcendent leap that is independent of stylistic?&quot; I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s possible to do this objectively; it seems to me the transcendent is intimately tied to the subjective form. It goes back to Bell&#039;s idea that genius in the art consists in getting in touch with one&#039;s own wiring. Six billion &quot;in-touch&quot; geniuses wouldn&#039;t necessarily get along. But it would be a heck of an interesting planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What ingredient do you need for transcendent leap that is independent of stylistic?&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s possible to do this objectively; it seems to me the transcendent is intimately tied to the subjective form. It goes back to Bell&#8217;s idea that genius in the art consists in getting in touch with one&#8217;s own wiring. Six billion &#8220;in-touch&#8221; geniuses wouldn&#8217;t necessarily get along. But it would be a heck of an interesting planet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on mipoesias chapbooks by jim k</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 05:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the latest updates are finally playing out my 6-yr-old laptop.  Other places too..
I got a netbook but the screen is tiny.
Well, the back-to-school specials await me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the latest updates are finally playing out my 6-yr-old laptop.  Other places too..<br />
I got a netbook but the screen is tiny.<br />
Well, the back-to-school specials await me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We Plough Along (poem draft) by Pearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear. I haven&#039;t sent any out no. One day...

All things are drafts, even the final one. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear. I haven&#8217;t sent any out no. One day&#8230;</p>
<p>All things are drafts, even the final one. <img src='http://pagehalffull.com/pesbo/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Haikuing by Pearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks.</p>
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